Francoise “Frances” <I>Heidt</I> Weber

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Francoise “Frances” Heidt Weber

Birth
Seltz, Departement du Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France
Death
27 Nov 1925 (aged 82)
Jefferson County, Kentucky, USA
Burial
Louisville, Jefferson County, Kentucky, USA Add to Map
Plot
Section A, Row C, Grave 14
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Francoise (Francisca ?) "Francis/Frances" Heidt was born on Feb. 2, 1843, probably in/near the commune (community) of Seltz (pop. today about 3,400) located in Bas-Rhin, Alsace, in the northeastern part of France.

Frances' French birth certificate shows her given name as Francoise, the feminine form of Francois. In America, she usually went by the nickname of "Francis" or "Frances", although the ship's Passenger List from the vessel ("Creole") she sailed to America on, and her marriage record, show her name as Francisca. Francis and Frances are French nicknames for Francoise and Francisca. Usually, Francis is a name for a male today, Frances for a female. She is shown as "Francis" in the 1860, 1970, 1880, 1910 and 1920 censuses. She is shown as "Frances" in the 1900 census, on her death certificate and on her headstone.

As mentioned above, Frances was born in/near Seltz, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France. The region borders Germany (separated by the Rhine River) and in the 1800's was primarily Germanic. At that time most of it's citizens spoke the German language.

Frances was the daughter of Heinerich (as spelled on his headstone) "Henry" (his American nickname) Heidt (1795-1878) and Maria Anne "Mary" Werner (1799-1868). Henry's surname may have been spelled "Heydt" in France. Frances' parents were also born in Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France. The Department of Bas-Rhin had been created by France in 1790 during the French Revolution.

The parents of Frances' father, Henry, were probably Heinricus "Henri" Heydt (1764-1826) and Madeleine Dissell (1773-1845). Both were born in France (Alsace), where they married, lived and died.

Her father, Henry, arrived in America (New Orleans) with his family on Nov. 13, 1854. At the age of 59, he made the long voyage (probably traveled in steerage) across the Atlantic Ocean with his 55 year old wife, Maria, three unmarried daughters (Lena 20, Eva 15 & Frances/Francesca 11), along with his married daughter, Maria Anne (Heidt) Stoltz (32), her husband, Joseph Stoltz (43, 1811-1893) and their three small children (Leo 6, Henry 4 & Charles 1). They probably traveled in steerage as it was the cheapest way to make the voyage. Living conditions in steerage were usually poor (at best) and in many cases, just plain awful.

Once in New Orleans the two families (Heidt & Stoltz) would have traveled up the Mississippi River and then up the Ohio River, by steamboat (again, probably in steerage) to the river port of Louisville. They eventually settled in rural SW Jefferson Co., Kentucky on farms located near each. Most likely, they had relatives and/or friends who helped them once they reached the Louisville area.

Henry, again his American name, had a good size farm on present day Arnoldtown Road while Joseph had a farm on nearby St. Anthony Church Road. At that time both roads were just dirt roads or trails. Their farms were not far from the St. Andrew Catholic Church established in 1851. Henry died in Jefferson County in 1878 at the age of 83 and is buried in the St. Andrew Cemetery. He is buried in the cemetery located next to the church he had attended.

The parents of Frances' mother, Maria, are uncertain but may have been Francois Joseph Werner (1762-1831) and Marguerite Wohl (1770-1826). Both were born in Alsace, France where they are thought to have lived and died.

Frances' mother, Maria, died in Jefferson Co., KY in 1868 at the age of 69. She too, is buried in the St. Andrew Catholic Cemetery. Her headstone, as well as that of her husband, Henry, is inscribed in German, their native language. Their markers are two of the earlier markers in the cemetery.

On Nov. 27, 1861, in Jefferson Co., KY, Frances married Johann Joseph "John" Weber. John, the English name for Johann, was an immigrant farmer from the Kingdom of Bavaria (1806-1918), now the largest state in Germany. The Weber and Heidt families had farms near each other and near the St. Andrew Catholic Church, which both of their families attended. About five years earlier (1856), Frances' older sister, Maleana "Lena" Heidt (1834-1910), had married John's older brother, Adam Weber (1828-1910). Sisters married brothers!

Both couples, John Weber & Frances Heidt and Adam Weber & Lena Heidt, were married in the St. Andrew Catholic Church which was located on the present day St. Anthony Church Road. The church, often referred to as "The Church on the Hill", disbanded about 1908 and the old stone church building, built in 1849-50 (opened in Jan. 1851), was finally razed around 1957. Some of the old building's large building stones (locally quarried) were used in the construction of the current St. Paul Catholic Church building on Dixie Highway in Pleasure Ridge Park, Jefferson Co., KY. Some of the church's old artifacts are also kept in the St. Paul Church. When the St. Andrew Church disbanded most of it's members moved their membership to the St. Paul Church, a church that was much easier to travel to.

The St. Andrew Cemetery is well taken care of by the St. Paul Catholic Church. A pavilion and memorial for aborted babies is now on the exact spot where the old stone St. Andrew Church building was once located. A 1920s photo of the old building, razed in 1957, is attached.

Frances and John were married for 27 years and had ten known children. They were Jacob Weber (1861-1897), Martin Weber (1863-1926), Anna Mary "Annie" Weber (1866-1940), Barbara Weber (1869-1960), Elizabeth "Liz" Weber (early 1870s-1875), Mariam Weber (early 1870s-1875), Nicholas Weber (early 1870s-1875), Peter Weber (early 1870s-1875), unknown Weber infant (early 1870s-1875), Martin Weber (early 1870s-bef 1880) and John Francis "Frank" Weber (1884-1973). All were born in Jefferson Co., KY on their family farm.

The cause of death for the five young Weber children who were born in the first half of the 1870s is currently unknown but was probably due to a disease like TB or an illness like the flu. They also may have been stillborn or have died at/near birth.

Frances' husband, John Weber, a life-long farmer, died on Oct. 23, 1888 in Jefferson Co., KY at the age of 56. He is buried in the St. Andrew Catholic Cemetery.

Frances was only 45 when her husband, John, died but she chose not to marry again. The 1920 US Census, shows her as 77 years of age and living alone on Dixie Highway East (PRP area), next to her son, John Weber Jr. and his family.

Living down the road a few miles in 1920, on present day Dixie Highway, near Shively, was her daughter, Barbara (Weber) Gagel, wife of Joseph Riley "Joe" Gagel (1861-1950). They were the parents of brothers, Sidney William "Sid" Gagel (1892-1973) and Riley Joseph Gagel (1898-1989), who as adults, also lived on Dixie Highway. For many years Frances' son-in-law, Joe (her daughter's husband), and his sons operated a vegetable farm on land where Holy Cross High School now stands. Joe's son, Sid Gagel, later owned and operated the vegetable farm by j himself and also built a new house on the land about 1935. A photo of that house (now razed) is posted to his memorial.

Frances died on Nov. 27, 1925 in Jefferson Co., KY at the age of 82. The cause of her death was pneumonia. She too, is buried in the St. Andrew Catholic Cemetery, near the site of the old St. Andrew Catholic Church were she had married in 1856 and where she choose to worship God. The current headstone for her and her husband, John, who died about 38 years earlier, appears to be a replacement marker.

All ten of John and Frances' children, as well as her parents, two sisters, Maleana "Lena" (Heidt) Weber (1834-1910) and Maria Anna (Heidt) Stoltz (1822-1900), and a brother, Anthony Heidt (1825-1900/10), are also buried in this cemetery.

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The information contained in this memorial for Francesca "Frances" Heidt , her husband, family members, ancestors and descendants, is thought to be correct. This memorial is revised/corrected, however, as new information becomes available.
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Francoise (Francisca ?) "Francis/Frances" Heidt was born on Feb. 2, 1843, probably in/near the commune (community) of Seltz (pop. today about 3,400) located in Bas-Rhin, Alsace, in the northeastern part of France.

Frances' French birth certificate shows her given name as Francoise, the feminine form of Francois. In America, she usually went by the nickname of "Francis" or "Frances", although the ship's Passenger List from the vessel ("Creole") she sailed to America on, and her marriage record, show her name as Francisca. Francis and Frances are French nicknames for Francoise and Francisca. Usually, Francis is a name for a male today, Frances for a female. She is shown as "Francis" in the 1860, 1970, 1880, 1910 and 1920 censuses. She is shown as "Frances" in the 1900 census, on her death certificate and on her headstone.

As mentioned above, Frances was born in/near Seltz, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France. The region borders Germany (separated by the Rhine River) and in the 1800's was primarily Germanic. At that time most of it's citizens spoke the German language.

Frances was the daughter of Heinerich (as spelled on his headstone) "Henry" (his American nickname) Heidt (1795-1878) and Maria Anne "Mary" Werner (1799-1868). Henry's surname may have been spelled "Heydt" in France. Frances' parents were also born in Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France. The Department of Bas-Rhin had been created by France in 1790 during the French Revolution.

The parents of Frances' father, Henry, were probably Heinricus "Henri" Heydt (1764-1826) and Madeleine Dissell (1773-1845). Both were born in France (Alsace), where they married, lived and died.

Her father, Henry, arrived in America (New Orleans) with his family on Nov. 13, 1854. At the age of 59, he made the long voyage (probably traveled in steerage) across the Atlantic Ocean with his 55 year old wife, Maria, three unmarried daughters (Lena 20, Eva 15 & Frances/Francesca 11), along with his married daughter, Maria Anne (Heidt) Stoltz (32), her husband, Joseph Stoltz (43, 1811-1893) and their three small children (Leo 6, Henry 4 & Charles 1). They probably traveled in steerage as it was the cheapest way to make the voyage. Living conditions in steerage were usually poor (at best) and in many cases, just plain awful.

Once in New Orleans the two families (Heidt & Stoltz) would have traveled up the Mississippi River and then up the Ohio River, by steamboat (again, probably in steerage) to the river port of Louisville. They eventually settled in rural SW Jefferson Co., Kentucky on farms located near each. Most likely, they had relatives and/or friends who helped them once they reached the Louisville area.

Henry, again his American name, had a good size farm on present day Arnoldtown Road while Joseph had a farm on nearby St. Anthony Church Road. At that time both roads were just dirt roads or trails. Their farms were not far from the St. Andrew Catholic Church established in 1851. Henry died in Jefferson County in 1878 at the age of 83 and is buried in the St. Andrew Cemetery. He is buried in the cemetery located next to the church he had attended.

The parents of Frances' mother, Maria, are uncertain but may have been Francois Joseph Werner (1762-1831) and Marguerite Wohl (1770-1826). Both were born in Alsace, France where they are thought to have lived and died.

Frances' mother, Maria, died in Jefferson Co., KY in 1868 at the age of 69. She too, is buried in the St. Andrew Catholic Cemetery. Her headstone, as well as that of her husband, Henry, is inscribed in German, their native language. Their markers are two of the earlier markers in the cemetery.

On Nov. 27, 1861, in Jefferson Co., KY, Frances married Johann Joseph "John" Weber. John, the English name for Johann, was an immigrant farmer from the Kingdom of Bavaria (1806-1918), now the largest state in Germany. The Weber and Heidt families had farms near each other and near the St. Andrew Catholic Church, which both of their families attended. About five years earlier (1856), Frances' older sister, Maleana "Lena" Heidt (1834-1910), had married John's older brother, Adam Weber (1828-1910). Sisters married brothers!

Both couples, John Weber & Frances Heidt and Adam Weber & Lena Heidt, were married in the St. Andrew Catholic Church which was located on the present day St. Anthony Church Road. The church, often referred to as "The Church on the Hill", disbanded about 1908 and the old stone church building, built in 1849-50 (opened in Jan. 1851), was finally razed around 1957. Some of the old building's large building stones (locally quarried) were used in the construction of the current St. Paul Catholic Church building on Dixie Highway in Pleasure Ridge Park, Jefferson Co., KY. Some of the church's old artifacts are also kept in the St. Paul Church. When the St. Andrew Church disbanded most of it's members moved their membership to the St. Paul Church, a church that was much easier to travel to.

The St. Andrew Cemetery is well taken care of by the St. Paul Catholic Church. A pavilion and memorial for aborted babies is now on the exact spot where the old stone St. Andrew Church building was once located. A 1920s photo of the old building, razed in 1957, is attached.

Frances and John were married for 27 years and had ten known children. They were Jacob Weber (1861-1897), Martin Weber (1863-1926), Anna Mary "Annie" Weber (1866-1940), Barbara Weber (1869-1960), Elizabeth "Liz" Weber (early 1870s-1875), Mariam Weber (early 1870s-1875), Nicholas Weber (early 1870s-1875), Peter Weber (early 1870s-1875), unknown Weber infant (early 1870s-1875), Martin Weber (early 1870s-bef 1880) and John Francis "Frank" Weber (1884-1973). All were born in Jefferson Co., KY on their family farm.

The cause of death for the five young Weber children who were born in the first half of the 1870s is currently unknown but was probably due to a disease like TB or an illness like the flu. They also may have been stillborn or have died at/near birth.

Frances' husband, John Weber, a life-long farmer, died on Oct. 23, 1888 in Jefferson Co., KY at the age of 56. He is buried in the St. Andrew Catholic Cemetery.

Frances was only 45 when her husband, John, died but she chose not to marry again. The 1920 US Census, shows her as 77 years of age and living alone on Dixie Highway East (PRP area), next to her son, John Weber Jr. and his family.

Living down the road a few miles in 1920, on present day Dixie Highway, near Shively, was her daughter, Barbara (Weber) Gagel, wife of Joseph Riley "Joe" Gagel (1861-1950). They were the parents of brothers, Sidney William "Sid" Gagel (1892-1973) and Riley Joseph Gagel (1898-1989), who as adults, also lived on Dixie Highway. For many years Frances' son-in-law, Joe (her daughter's husband), and his sons operated a vegetable farm on land where Holy Cross High School now stands. Joe's son, Sid Gagel, later owned and operated the vegetable farm by j himself and also built a new house on the land about 1935. A photo of that house (now razed) is posted to his memorial.

Frances died on Nov. 27, 1925 in Jefferson Co., KY at the age of 82. The cause of her death was pneumonia. She too, is buried in the St. Andrew Catholic Cemetery, near the site of the old St. Andrew Catholic Church were she had married in 1856 and where she choose to worship God. The current headstone for her and her husband, John, who died about 38 years earlier, appears to be a replacement marker.

All ten of John and Frances' children, as well as her parents, two sisters, Maleana "Lena" (Heidt) Weber (1834-1910) and Maria Anna (Heidt) Stoltz (1822-1900), and a brother, Anthony Heidt (1825-1900/10), are also buried in this cemetery.

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The information contained in this memorial for Francesca "Frances" Heidt , her husband, family members, ancestors and descendants, is thought to be correct. This memorial is revised/corrected, however, as new information becomes available.
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